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Found the limit of my block today! 2.1 bar boost = cracked!

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GAZ`D



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

deek wrote:
yeh well my dick is smaller then all of yours so there



and that is a fact PMSL

well all i can say is the engine failure is not steveboyslims fault as he never built it PMSL Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris

i said i would not be surprised if it was the most power let in the country

i was basing that on chips power at 1.5 bar and speckys power

your going on like a spoilt child because i did not know about the top secret 900bhp let

a question for you chris

should we no longer call speckys the fastest fwd vauxhall in the uk, just incase there is someone else that no one knows about that is faster ???
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAZ`D wrote:
deek wrote:
yeh well my dick is smaller then all of yours so there



and that is a fact PMSL

well all i can say is the engine failure is not steveboyslims fault as he never built it PMSL Thumbs Up



PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No u shouldnt stop calling it that because it is.
So stop wereing blinkers
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris S wrote:
No u shouldnt stop calling it that because it is.
So stop wereing blinkers


blinkers WTF Are you on about

icba with this anymore, you cannot seam to get it into your head that my coment just that not a fact

i was not saying was fact just i would not be surprised.

you have now said there is a 600bhp mystry machine so my coment was wrong

i dont see why your so offended
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAZ`D wrote:
deek wrote:
yeh well my dick is smaller then all of yours so there



and that is a fact PMSL

well all i can say is the engine failure is not steveboyslims fault as he never built it PMSL Thumbs Up


PMSL PMSL PMSL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PMSL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theres a lot of love in the room, can you feel it PMSL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAZ`D wrote:
deek wrote:
yeh well my dick is smaller then all of yours so there



and that is a fact PMSL

yes it is and if its not im worried for you all

well all i can say is the engine failure is not steveboyslims fault as he never built it PMSL Thumbs Up


PMSL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you killed it having fun fella! Can't argue with that..............
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sbd16v wrote:


icba with this anymore, you cannot seam to get it into your head that my coment just that not a fact

i was not saying was fact just i would not be surprised.

you have now said there is a 600bhp mystry machine so my coment was wrong

i dont see why your so offended


a few snipers in this thread (site) rob, peoples noses out of joint or something like fuck knows Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have build 87mm bore size LET at 2,2 bar and more tha 600 bhp without any problems.
Mine at 2,45 bar,800ps turbo and 750 ps never had this kind of problems.
I've seen allthough LET with T34(Escort Cossie) turbo that faces exactly the same problem with Chip.
He changed the block and never faced the same problem.
So i don't think that this is a problem of the strength of the block.

Something else is wrong...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it needs putting back together as it was. I don't think it will happen again.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put sum proper boost threw it n smash timin in
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is a bit late , but i hadnt noticed in some of the places that you post chip , whether or not youve posted any kind of indepth autopsy on the motor yet , -
and do you think you would be able to find time to do a detailed analysis into your findings at some later date ?, as im sure it prove educational to myself and many , - at the least it would prove a good read
especially as cracked cylinder walls on let/xe's are bit of a rarity to most-

One thing that did get me Confused , reading this thread though and all the others places around the web that have taken an interest in the demise of your motor , is the fact that so many are quick to make comparisons in terms of just raw hp with other established engines out there , citing all manner of implied causes based around that , but no one as yet has asked how much torque you were making and at what rpm around the time of failure or how it relates to an engines peak cylinder pressure etc ,

i dare say even relatively equal spec'ed motors can vary to a lesser or greater degree , purely on the factor of setup - e.g cam timing , ignition timing , fueling , manifold lengths , boost capping , exhaust a/r etc etc to create a significant difference in pcp's from one engine to the next , let alone any just the spec'ing of parts

....... i would equally be interested in reading into a pure root and branch analysis / comparisons , In to the very foundations of the manufacturing hereditary of xe / let motors , over the course of known production changes etc etc to look for probable cause in this area ,

e.g for example , even just a simple visual or measured data comparisons between a known group of engines regarding things like core shift during a spectrum of casting runs etc ( which imho are a known notorious anomaly in most manufacturers long production models ) leading to thining of the thicker thrust wall of most engines cylinders , etc etc

All of which i feel could only enrichen most peoples knowledge of this engine , for future reference
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might chop the back of the block open to expose the back of the crack, but TBH even if I do, Im not really sure what it will tell me, other than what I already know, which is that it is cracked.

Would certainly be interesting to get data on how the blocks vary over the production term, as im sure they do.

Ive only personally tested one previously before I built this engine, and thats a shocking sample size but I only have limited resources sadly like most folk.
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