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[Noswizard]

We sell those testers and ALL my customers should buy one to check their spark on a regular basis, because even the best ignitions can lose power. Not being able to check your spark (as described in my book), could cost you a full seasons racing, as it has in this case!!!!!
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[mgbv8]

Trev
Are you talking about those plastic caliper things that you fit in the HT lead to check how far the spark will jump?

I'm buggered if I can find one in any shop. And when you ask in a shop for one, you seem to get a blank look ??

My dad used to have one back in the day, but I havent seen one anywhere for yonks mate.

How much are they??

Perry
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1975 MGB V8
12.08 @ 114.20 mph.
Knock Knock Knocking on 11's Door!!

[Noswizard]

Yep those are the ones and it's because they became so hard to buy that we decided to stock them ourselves.
They're just £5 (plus post & VAT) each.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[mgbv8]

I'll be on the phone to Ant on Monday Trev.
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1975 MGB V8
12.08 @ 114.20 mph.
Knock Knock Knocking on 11's Door!!

[T.F.S.]

never seen them for sale anywhere else, essential tool for tuning/maintainence
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[Scalded Cat]

Unbelievable! I'm kicking myself!

My brand spanking new ignition system with what is meant to be (and what looked like when 1st installed) a significant increase in spark strength turns out to be the reason behind my problems all year. It's "funny" how things seem obvious when you know what they are...

Though in our defence, other problems during this years 20 passes (yes, that's just 20 passes!) have confused us and limited progress. It was very relieving to find the problem at last

Trying to find what was causing the problems has really allowed us to put the revos through their paces, and made us look closely at exactly how they are performing (should have done the same with the bloody ignition...).

The amount of control available (revos in conjuction with the max extreme) is amazing; and the fact that I could get from barely noticeable levels of power, right through to the point the spark is snuffed out, on a single stage system capable of delivering 500 to 600bhp with nothing more than a setting change on the max-extreme - is incredible!

Some people come up to me at the track and ask why I stick with it and why I don't go back to known system designs 'that work' - I tell them its because this is so much better than anything else I can't imagine a reason I'd ever want to go back, and that it does work - it's just the rest of the bloody bike that isn't playing ball.
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If the last setting didn't work - add more gas! (and check your ignition is still working ok!)

[Noswizard]

Well one thing is certain, EVERY PART of the bike that is related to making power, will be put through the most extreme tests possible before you get the bike back Dave, so there will be NO DOUBT about any of that well before the start of next season.

In fact I hope to start some dyno work before the end of the month.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[eldoodarino]

is the revo system being tested elswhere..? or only on this bike at the moment...?

I'm just wondering what possible cars might be sampling this smooth system...?

Regards

Chris

[Noswizard]

We have other customers using the Revo but they remain secret for now.

Dave is our public demonstrator of the Revo and it's just unfortunate that his results have been impaired by sub-standard sparks.
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[eldoodarino]

ok.... you must have so many people chompin at the bit for it...

[Noswizard]

We certainly do and it's VERY FRUSTRATING having to put the brakes on the launch date BUT this is a once in a lifetime situation and it MUST be done correctly.

Here's a scenario that we came very close to being involved in that would have WRECKED the Revos future.

One of our customers was a reasonable candidate for a Revo but for reasons beyond our control it didn't happen - LUCKILY.
This customer continued to use our 3 stage Motec controlled 3 stage pulsed system instead.

After a PERFECT dyno session which produced a perfectly reliable 350 bhp the customer raced at the Pod and melted the head.

Had the Revo unit been on the bike, there is NO DOUBT that certain people would have blamed that for the failure REGARDLESS of the GENUINE reason for the failure. Within weeks it would have been spread all over the Internet that the Revo system was a failure and caused engine damage.

Luckily we were on the winning side that time, so it's not all been bad luck this year.

BTW the actual cause of this incident was the ECU outputs being messed up by interference on the input side, resulting in incorrect fuel delivery through the injectors - it being a dry system.

One more example of why WET systems can be more reliable.
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[xxdrac]

Dave Love the signatuer :-) im starting to write notes like that to myself :-)

Best luck with bike and Im really looking forward to seeing it Run Next season :-)


Tezz
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XXDRAC™ WON 75 kit :-) 10.94 @ 132mph on an XJR1300 :-)

[Scalded Cat]

Thanks Tezz - appreciated and I'm looking forward to riding it
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If the last setting didn't work - add more gas! (and check your ignition is still working ok!)

[Noswizard]

That signature certainly does it for me Dave!!! lol

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[Noswizard]

Right we've refreshed and re-built Dave's engine and modified the bike to fit a chassis dyno.

In the process we found bore, valve seal, carb set up, ignition, clutch and gearbox problems, that would have all adversely affected the bikes performance.

We've now got a good spark (but not sure why it was poor when first tested), so it could be one of those wonderful intermitent type problems and all the other problems have been rectified.

We hope to get it on the dyno by the end of next week, so we should have some interesting dyno results both off nitrous and of the Revo delivery, as well as peak power capability then.

Call back soon.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[Noswizard]

Unfortunately we've been incredibly busy since making the last post and I've now got to fly out of the country on a 2 week business trip, so it now looks like the Revo dyno tests will have to wait till mid Jan unless I manage to squeeze them in just before Xmas.

Sorry for the delay but we'll get there in the end.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[WISC]

best things come to those who wait

....no complaints comming from my direction
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K10 + MA10 + N20 =ZOOM! (Nitrously Aspirated)

[billb]

Any news?

BillB
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CRX Turbo

[Noswizard]

Hi Bill,

Welcome to my forum.

I've been so busy with other matters that I'd overlooked the need to update this thread till you posted.

Here is the progress report;

1) Due to Dave's bike being built for Pro Mod Drag racing, the gearbox, clutch & tire were not suitable for dyno use, so we had to change all those and modify other elements of the bike accordingly.

2) This lead to 2 major problems,
i) The fitting of a small road wheel/tire and a street gearbox resulted in NUMEROUS problems that wasted MANY hours of dyno time
ii) The fitting of an old crank that had the right gear to match the street clutch lead to a premature bigend failure.

3) After MANY hours of resolving all the issues mentioned above and shortly after we started using the nitrous (at low power settings), number 3 big end broke up and wrecked most of the engine components (crank, cases, piston, liner, head, valves and cams) but thankfully we're able to reclaim the head and cases.

4) Thankfully the fer runs we managed to get prior to the failure, PROVED CONCLUSIVELY the benefits of the Revo/Max Extreme system.

5) Although we were only adding a max 70 hp VERY PROGRESSIVELY, we were still having great difficulty preventing traction issues due to the ENORMOUS amount of torque the system was generating as soon as we started to ramp in the power delivery.

6) Despite not being able to run the full R&D program as we'd wanted to, we discovered a number of VERY IMPORTANT factors that are now contributing to further advancement of the application of the Revo concept.

7) Not only were we able to confirm the EXTREME range and fine control the Revo / Max Extreme has over power delivery but MORE IMPORTANTLY, we were able to demonstrate the EXTREME ACCURACY of the mixture adjustment by producing a PERFECTLY FLAT A/F plot.

As a consequence of the big end failure and the closeness of the start of the new race season, we've had to postpone any further Revo R&D on Dave's bike on the dyno till the middle of the year, when there's a break in the race program.

9) Since the engine failure we've been sourcing replacement components and re-building Dave's engine/bike back to Drag Race spec, in readiness for the start the race season.

10) We're also reworking the entire nitrous system, so Dave can benefit from all the advances we've made since we first fitted our system to his bike.

11) Despite the limited benefits we gained from the dyno R&D time, we did pick up some EXTREMELY IMPORTANT information that will CERTAINLY be of great benefit to Dave's performances this year, so we hope to see a good and early start to his season.

12) It may be pushing it a tad but we hope to have his bike race ready by the end of the week and deliver it to him at the Pod this weekend.

13) Time as always is the main limiting factor with our Revo progress but whenever we do get some spare time to spend on the Revo, it always produces POSITIVE results, so we're always moving closer to the day we ultimately release these REVOLUTIONARY systems to the general public.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[billb]

Thanks very much for the update.

I'm sorry to hear about all the problems you've been having with the R&D bike & I wish you all the best of luck getting it out to race!

I doubt you'll be able to tell me but do you have any idea when the Revo system will be available?

BillB
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CRX Turbo

[Noswizard]

Thanks for the good wishes Bill.

The Revo system is available to selected customers now but the criteria to meet is very exact until we're ready to make a public launch.

If you'd like to send me details of your vehicle and where you live by PM, I'll let you know if you would be eligible and if not I'd keep your details on record for when they are available on general release.

Regards
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Trev (The WIZARD of NOS)

[xxdrac]

i could have loaned ya a stock bike save taking daves apart

but if you got a flat AF surely thats way above anything else and now its just a mtter of ajusting thinking and use of system
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XXDRAC™ WON 75 kit :-) 10.94 @ 132mph on an XJR1300 :-)

[Noswizard]

That's about the size of it but just like most things, that's easier said than done and this weekends weather is a perfect example of why that's so, because Dave was booked in to race at the Pod this weekend but has now pulled out, so we've missed our 1st (and probably not the last) opportunity to get it done or at least started.
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