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Noswizard · Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:14 pm Post subject: Smooth Dyno demo

I know this is a bit short notice but I wasn't sure till now that I'd have a working plan but it's all systems go for a dyno demo of the smooooth progressive.

One of my bike customers is having an open dyno day and I'm going down to demo the smooooth system on his bike on his dyno. Now I'm told there isn't much of a viewers gallery round his dyno and it's a major bike event, so it'll be packed with insane bikers (like myself), but anyone who wants to try and get an eyeball on how the smooooth system performs and wants to be part of history in the making, then you need to get to the following address this Saturday 12th March. The dyno will be running all day and I'll try to get the opportunity to do a number of demos a few times throughout the day. Even if you can't see a great deal, you should be able to hear the bike/s howling when I inject the nitrous and witness the variations in response as I change the delivery rate.

The address is;

Dyno Speed Developments, Unit 11, Gravell Lane, Chigwell, Essex IG7 6DQ (not far from the Dartford tunnel & the M25).

Hope to see some of you there.

Regards
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racetested · Moderator Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 2104

Good luck and the future of nitrous looks promising! Hope you get some video.

racetested · Moderator Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 2104

First demo link.
http://www.youtube.com/?v=56OGLysdqBE

Loopy · Guest

Well a bike'll be a good test of it, if anything is sensitive to change or inaccuracy its a bike motor.
The bonus is bikers are the hardest audience of all !

So whens the first car demo then ?
(Hammer poised over piggy bank in readyness)

T.F.S. · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:54 am Post subject:

http://img213.exs.cx/img213/7991/trev14xx.jpg

http://img204.exs.cx/img204/4741/trev20gr.jpg

and this is what the other companys feel like at the moment......
http://img202.exs.cx/img202/9141/suicidekitten7hq.jpg

hey trev any news on the vid?, did it come out ok????
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Noswizard · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:36 am Post subject:

Thanks for that Brian and yes the video came out OK although I'm not sure it will prove much to anyone who doubts what I achieved on Saturday. However in conjunction with the graphs and my explanations (which will follow), anyone who isn't a fool should be able to appreciate it.

That kitten pick is cruel (ahh) but the sentiment should be appropriate. LOL LOL

Regards
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Noswizard · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:48 am Post subject:

When assessing the results of this demo, keep in mind that it was a very crude and a less than perfect method for showing the full degree of control the new system has to offer.

All I wanted to do was dispel claims that my previous demo (model car) was a hoax and put on record that 'I' am the first person in the world to run such a system before someone else makes false claims to that achievement.

It's a shame the graphs don't have the without gas run as a base line for you to judge the full performance from. However 'every' change in power no matter how big or how small and no matter for how long were 'all' due to my thumb action on my control lever. They are all random and they are all damped by the crude way we were injecting the gas.
On the purple first graph and black middle graph I was reducing the power towards the end of the runs then I shot the power up as fast as possible (which is why there is a power spike at the end of each run.
On the last graph, I initially activated the power rise as rapidly as possible, which is why it 'spiked' (and spun the wheel) and I then instantly backed off which is shown by the tail end of the spike.
With this example in mind, you should be able to tell from each graph what changes I made (up & down), at what rate and for how long, to the control system.
In a 'real' & 'correctly fitted' system the response could be made to be as instant as a solenoid system but then with the addition of the electronic control we are working on, we'll be able to reproduce the slower rise rates right down to the lowest level (or anything in-between).

Regards
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bigdaveakers · Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:58 pm Post subject:

Congrats Trev! Very Happy

Now when you going to fit it on my car?! Wink

Low Profile · Learner Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 32 Location: France

How does the 'switch off' time of the smoooth system compare to that of a conventional pulsoid? (ie. the time it takes to de-activate)

chip · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

Good stuff Trev, nice to see the theory going into practice and performing as expected.
Very Happy

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Noswizard · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:37 am Post subject:

Dave,

As soon as we get them manufactured and you part with some cash!!! LOL LOL

Low,

We have a couple of options but the quickest option will open far quicker than the current solenoid and close as quick as the current solenoid.

Chip,

What annoys me is that I would have had this system on the market 20 years ago if the British race fraternity had been supportive of my products rather than buying the American junk. However this is probably the right time as I'm better situated to deal with the huge demand this new revolutionary system is generating.

Regards
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T.F.S. · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:44 am Post subject:

id like to put my name down on the "guinea pig" list

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Noswizard · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:49 am Post subject:

Consider it done, but there is NOTHING unknown or risky about this because although it's new technology, it's a safer system than current solenoids etc. and delivers nitrous power in a safer manner. ;-)

Regards
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T.F.S. · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject:

after seeing that demo trev i think i totally understand that and is the reason why i want to have a setup like that on the calibra (which will be back very soon!)

TBH even if i hadnt have been there i know you wouldnt release it for testing unless it was up to the job anyway Cheers

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chip · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:44 am Post subject:

Same as TFS trev, put me down to be one of the first to use the new system.

Do you have any idea of what sort of date johnny will run his first race using them?

(im assuming he will be the first?)
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racetested · Moderator Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 2104

So basically you can have the same control of nitrous like you do with your throttle pedal with great reliabilty as well?

Racer704 · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:22 pm Post subject:

how about calling it Opti-Flow or Mega-Flowor I know one of Trev's favorite might be " Stick this up your a@# Noid " lol Laughing

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Noswizard · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject:

You beat me to it Johnny!!!! Laughing

Regards
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Noswizard · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:48 pm Post subject:

On a more serious note, Janet likes the suggestion I came up with of

"The Pro-Flow solenoid" as in Progressive flow solenoid

if we run with the modified Pulsoid option and she's quite good at picking names.

Thanks for the ideas Brian and I'll be heppy to consider as many as get posted.

Regards
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chip · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:33 am Post subject:

Look, never mind the name when do i get my set?

*stamps feet and throws tantrum*

:lol:

So pleased its all working out for you Trev, I cant wait to see the reaction from the NOS/ZEX/NX lads when these things start hitting the street/strip

Going to make "staged" systems look really archaic now, as it removes the one and only problem with pulsed soleoids, the over filling of a particular cylinder at lower rpm and higher power levels.

Setup correctly with this new system the "area under the curve" is going to potentially be inreased by SO much more than people realise. Very Happy

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T.F.S. · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:36 am Post subject:

dam right!

it is by far the most advanced nitrous system in the world! Cool

i think even trev has surpassed himself with this one Shocked

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Noswizard · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:58 am Post subject:

Thanks for that guys and I'm busy trying to decide which format will be best to run with, as we now have 3 concepts which each have 3 options.

Whilst this is a great step forward, wait till you see the next step that I'm working on!!!! LOL LOL

Whilst NOS, NX and the like start running about like headless chickens trying to copy the smooth system, I'll be making an even more radical step that even makes the smoooooth system seem crude!!!! LOL LOL

There's no way that lot will ever catch up - talk about cutting a great light!!! LOL LOL

Regards
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chip · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:

Trev, would that the be the system i was trying to nag you into creating in the pub after santa pod?
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Noswizard · Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:26 pm Post subject:

Chip,

I seem to remember my spark of creation happened back then!!!!! LOL

Then a few sleepless nights later I came up with the methodology to achieve it (in theory anyway).

Don't let the "in theory" part dampen your enthusiasm for it's success in practice, as I manage to turn all my theories into practical products. ;-)

Regards
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Loopy · Guest

Personally i don't see us needing to over hype or even "sell" the new smoothy.
Look, we've now got the first working example in the world of a true "throttle position controlled" continuously variable non pulsed system.
If people can't understand what the implications of that are then whats the point ?
This is barely a step away from a true "independant" fuel and air delivery system, the ultimate "anti-reversion" method; A closed throttle plate !

This doesn't need washing powder hype, that doesn't do it justice and it'll have to be acknowledged as a major fricking acomplishment soon enough by everyone.
This is already way beyond todays thinking and the proposed "true injection" goes further still.
This stuff is going to be recieved like elecricity was, recognition is a long way off yet.

Besides, what are all us "disciples" going to do if Wizards becomes accepted ? We'll have to form a splinter faction promoting staged or something. Laughing

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