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dan.brown
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: help needed in bournemouth, dorset (test update!) Reply with quote

Hi,

After speaking with the agents listed on the noswizard site, they no longer do installations. I have a second hand streetblaster 100i kit and need some help with the electrics setup and fuel line connection.

The kit has a TPS switch and minimiser. I have installed the bottles and the hosing that runs from the boot to the engine bay. I have mount points ready for the solenoids. I just need some help wiring up the electrics and fuel line.

I am happy to pay for this help as I would have paid for installation anyway.

Can anyone help?

Thanks,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm confident you can do the job yourself. Everytime we have customers afraid of an install we or a customer close to them helps out with explaining and they are always like" that is not hard at all".

Take a look at the manuals and then ask more questions if they are not clear.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alternatively - there's a member on here - Karzi - who lives in Bournemouth too - he's been running nitrous for a while now and I'm sure if you PM him he'd be happy to help.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the vote of confidence Denny. Whenever I post on this forum I always leave feeling like I can do it all myself.

I am confident with some guidance I can manage but I have read the haynes manual and have questions unanswered.

1. I am looking to mount the activation switch in my centre console by the handbrake. I need to run a wire from the ignition switch to the nos activation switch with a 20 amp inline fuse. May sound like a stupid question :-( but where am I going to find a wire I can feed from? Do I need to open up the steering column? I'm not sure where to look.

2. I don't quite understand the TPS diagram in the minimiser manual. I hope you don't mind but I have taken a pic from the pdf manual to illustrate.

My minimiser has black, red, purple, pink, white, orange and blue leads running from it. The purple and pink are taped up suggesting they werent in use before. But what do the others do? The manual only mentions black (earth), white (connects to TPS switch), blue and orange (connect to solenoids but im not clear how). What about the red one?

Your help is REALLY appreciated as I have set myself a deadline of 14th september to have it running 25bhp jets before eventually aiming at 75bhp :-)

Thanks again,

Dan
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks SAS, will do. Also i'm dying to just be in a car to experience the nitrous kick so I will send him a message :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ul be running 50bhp jets on the 15th of september then Laughing Laughing
its easy enuff everyone will aid you.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming you have the old style Maximiser from the wires you listed?


You'll have to use the Maximiser wiring instructions then.

I always run a power wire direct from the battery. This ensures that you get adequate current. Plus it makes finding a power source much easier. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the one! That makes SO much more sense. Thanks Denny. And I can just run a wire from +ve on battery through fuse to activation switch? Thats also a huge problem solved.

That distant light at the end of this tunnel already seems a little closer Very Happy

I have the next 2 days off to try and make as big a dent as possible in to this project. There will be more questions... Very Happy

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep!

Your purple wire will remain capped off unless you have a retard unit or ignition with a retard built in to connect it to?

I'm not sure what the pink wire is for? I've had an older unit but i don't recall a pink wire as that would make 7 wires total and there should only be 6.

A power feed off the battery with an inline fuse is perfect. Doesn't get any easier than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at that pic again Denny, I may still have the minimiser if they looked similar... My unit has the wires exiting from the middle at the bottom, not the left of the bottom.

I will take some pictures of my kit and post them up here for people to see and comment on.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a plan. Then Ant or Trev can better explain things as they know the old units much better than I.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a Maximiser you have as you have too many wires for a Minimax, we made a few different designs.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys. I have it wired up and it says its a maximiser when powered up Smile

So switch and maximiser are in, just need to setup tps switch and fuel feed tomorrow. Can I take the tps away from the throttle body to test the wires or does it need to be connected as its a bit small for my hands down there unless i move the tps to one side.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean remove the factory TPS from it's plug to test which wire is the main signal wire?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

So the setup is going really well. Thanks to everyone who has helped so far.

Just need to setup the TPS and then I am ready for static testing. The problem I am having is the TPS must either be an old unit, or broken, or i dont know what... The instructions dont seem to work for the version I have.

In the setup it mentions to press the 'SET' button next to the LED. My TPS doesn't have a SET button. The two holes in the casing show an LED and a small phillips screw that I can turn but it doesn't ever seem opened or closed tight.

Can anyone explain if this is an old or broken unit? Or what I should do to set it up.

Many thanks,

Dan
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the screw is for setting it up id guess, you adjust it so the led comes on when throttle is at wot.

i dont know any of this its a total guess.

did i find the wire that moves 5v when acyvating throttle (it might be 0.5v in either direction??

if u have connect it up to that and turn screw with someone holding accek to floor till led lights, job done.

i really dont know any of this...thats how i think they work from surfin here a while.



i see u say it says `press set button next to led` so i guess you aint stoopid so perhaps you do have a older model?? but having said that im sure it will work the way i told u....inless its broke.

the pros or a user of one will put u right, good luck....i cant believe how patient you have been Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old ones were manual so you had to set them with the screw.
IIRC its like Alfa said, hold the throttle at about 80 - 90% and turn screw until light comes on (its an endless pot so it keeps turning i think)
release throttle then check it comes on when you open the throttle again.
Don't take that as gospel though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Patient, yeah. Sometimes I wish I just got Regal Auto to sort it. But every question I have had, someone on here has been able to answer.
Denny, Loopy and Trev have so far helped me to this point. I'm £450 better off because of it. So I can wait a bit longer :lol:

Thanks for the suggestions, will try them tomorrow.

Dan
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A quick phone call to HQ would definately sort it one way or another.......

Laughing You don't HAVE to rely on the board you know. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

£450 bloody hell no wonder you did it yourself, just think of all the luvuly gas u can burn with that money. my mate did mine 4 £50 quid and after he`d done it loopy and the crew pointed out ways to improve it when i posted a pic of install (i actually expected em to say best instal they ever saw Laughing Laughing ) so i went straight back with the list (ie take it all out and start again Laughing Laughing ) and he was even good enuff to do it, took some persuading it would be better though...but he`s a beliver now ;)

loopy perhaps the saving has gone to his head and he cant bring himself to ring hq.....call will cost to much Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alfaluva is right on the set up method but if you have any problems we could fix you up with either the latest version or a micro switch.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a load of help from Ant yesterday and we tried everything he could think of. Got the LED to come one but never alternate when throttle changes. Fiddled with the jumper settings but I think the screw bit is dead and not adjusting the setting like it should.

So I have order a new one from you guys (as you suggested Trev) and am looking forward to it arriving today or tomorrow Smile

I WILL have it working by the weekend!!

Cheers again to the NOS Wizards and you lot on here Very Happy

Dan
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you should have it by now....how is it gouing
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It arrived yesterday, looks much more solid than the one I had. Didnt get chance to fit it last night though so I'm having a go this evening. Can't wait!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck, nearly there, on the home straight. Very Happy
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